[PDB Tech] allow empty IP field or not?

Sascha Pollok sp at iphh.net
Sun Dec 25 06:15:39 PST 2016


Hi Job, et al,

Let's please keep it required. Many people rely on PDB information to 
automate peering configurations. It does not happen often that we need to 
configure peering sessions that require manual input and when it happens, 
it is actually annoying. Making IP addresses optional will make more ASes 
not document them either of lazyness or weird security reasons. If someone 
thinks not disclosing them gives extra security they do have a problem 
anyway. It's easy to find out peering LAN IPs if someone wants to do 
something ugly.

Please keep them required.

Merry xmas
Sascha



On 25. December 2016 13:33:04 Job Snijders <job at instituut.net> wrote:

> Perhaps a different way of phrasing the question:
>
> When you indicate you are a participant of an IXP, should entering an IP 
> address be optional?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Job
>
> On 25 Dec 2016, 12:39 +0100, Job Snijders <job at instituut.net>, wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Sometimes people want to disclose their presence at an Internet
>> Exchange, but don't want to disclose their IP address.
>>
>> Should PeeringDB allow the IPv4 and IPv6 field to be either of the
>> following?
>>
>> "a valid globally unique IP address"
>> "" (empty)
>>
>> Or should PDB only accept valid globally unique IP addresses as value
>> for the IP Field?
>>
>> It appears we've gone back and forth between allowing empty and not
>> allowing empty as is visible here: https://www.peeringdb.com/ix/1138
>> (currently empty is not allowed).
>>
>> An argument against 'empty' is that from an automation perspective the
>> 'empty' value is quite useless.
>>
>> Based on the outcome of this discussion I'd like to either clean up the
>> database, or popularise the use of the 'empty ip field' where
>> applicable.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Job
>
>
>
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