[PDB Data Ownership-TF] Apricot 2020

Sun Feb 16 12:45:33 PST 2020

Hi Terry,

In principle TF should have agreed on this. I do not remember support for a public presentation when Arnold suggested it previously. 

As your initial call for meeting was for an internal TF members only meeting for those who would be in MEL, my understanding was not at all for this so far either. 

There had been luckily some movement in the last TF meeting. So we can provide a latest. You and Arnold were not present at that meeting. You can of course watch the recording to get up to date.

I will be there. 

Regards
Filiz

> On 16 Feb 2020, at 19:17, Terry Sweetser <Terry.Sweetser at ix.asn.au> wrote:
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> Hi Team,
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> Definitely a ”public engagement”, M10 is a public meeting place.
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> Highly recommend conspicuous stakeholder engagement on this.
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> TCS
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> From: Filiz Yilmaz <filiz at peeringdb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 11:26:55 AM
> To: Terry Sweetser <Terry.Sweetser at ix.asn.au>
> Cc: dataownership-tf at lists.peeringdb.com <dataownership-tf at lists.peeringdb.com>
> Subject: Re: [PDB Data Ownership-TF] Apricot 2020
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> Hi Terry,
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> Thanks for the arrangements. 
>  
> On the Whova app the meet is looking public and now there are 17 people coming. 
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> I had thought this was an informal meet up for TF members only initially. I don’t mind either way but it will be good to know to manage expectations especially of the non-TF attendees, also because the description of the event reads “Discuss recent tf work on data ownership”. 
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> Also a public engagement will require different kind of prep from my side as the Chair of the TF, as you can imagine.
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> So I will appreciate if you can clarify what you really have in mind for this event: 
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> Is it for an internal TF members discussion or for public engagement? And if the latter, is the audience expecting a report from the TF? What is the agenda? 
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> Thanks
> Filiz
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> On 8 Feb 2020, at 08:33, Terry Sweetser <Terry.Sweetser at ix.asn.au> wrote:
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> Hi Everyone,
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> I have added a (changed) slot in the calendar and on the Whova app for 1pm local on Wednesday 18th February, for a PeeringDB “Meet Up” in the Peering Meet Me room.
> As there’s a lunch on downstairs at the same time, I recommend getting food and then heading to the room for an informal discussion.
> Wednesday at Apricot 2020 will be a big day for Peering, I’ll be in all of those sessions and at the Equinix Social that evening.
>  
> Regards,
> Terry Sweetser
> General Manager, IX Australia
> Terry.Sweetser at ix.asn.au
> Mobile/WhatsApp: +61455067119
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> From: Filiz Yilmaz <filiz at peeringdb.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2020 7:07 AM
> To: Terry Sweetser <Terry.Sweetser at ix.asn.au>
> Cc: dataownership-tf at lists.peeringdb.com
> Subject: Re: [PDB Data Ownership-TF] Apricot 2020
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> Terry, 
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> I just heard that Job will not be able to attend APRICOT anymore. 
> This makes us down to 3, who will be in Melbourne in person, to my count.
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> I've checked the timezones again and it does not look realistic to me that we can have majority or any critical mass attending an online meeting during any reasonable day-time hr meeting in MEL. See a sample at https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20200219&p1=16&p2=152&p3=64&p4=43
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> So I would say it is best that you, I and Arnold meet in person while we are in APRICOT. 
> We can then follow-up on the mailing list as necessary after our meeting and our discussion points can be shared with the other TF members.
> After APRICOT week, we can follow-up with an online mtg as usual. 
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> I will send an off-list mail to arrange a meeting time in MEL. 
>  
> Kind regards
> Filiz
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> On 3 Feb 2020, at 21:18, Terry Sweetser <Terry.Sweetser at ix.asn.au> wrote:
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> Let’s narrow down a possible time to Wednesday 19th after lunch or some time on Thursday 20th in M10, the Peering Meet Me room.
>  
> Regards,
> Terry Sweetser
> General Manager, IX Australia
> Terry.Sweetser at ix.asn.au
> Mobile/WhatsApp: +61455067119
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> From: Filiz Yilmaz <filiz at peeringdb.com> 
> Sent: Monday, 3 February 2020 11:16 PM
> To: Terry Sweetser <Terry.Sweetser at ix.asn.au>
> Cc: dataownership-tf at lists.peeringdb.com
> Subject: Re: [PDB Data Ownership-TF] Apricot 2020
>  
> Hi Terry, 
>  
> Any news on this?
> Pls note I am on leave from 7 Feb onwards until 17 Feb (1st day of APRICOT).
> It will be best to conclude this before Thursday this week. 
>  
> Regards
> Filiz
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> On 30 Jan 2020, at 15:14, Filiz Yilmaz <filiz at peeringdb.com> wrote:
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> Hi Terry,
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> Will you be able to get us a room for any time we can? 
> If so I can open a Doodle to find the right time for the majority? 
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> Otherwise, pls advise on the date and times of the room availability and I will open a Doodle considering them. 
>  
> Filiz
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> On 29 Jan 2020, at 23:37, Terry Sweetser <Terry.Sweetser at ix.asn.au> wrote:
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> Hi Filiz, very easy to arrange, my team is doing all the telco work.
> Have we got a proposed time and date for this meeting yet?
>  
> Regards,
> Terry Sweetser
> General Manager, IX Australia
> Terry.Sweetser at ix.asn.au
> Mobile/WhatsApp: +61455067119
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> From: Filiz Yilmaz <filiz at peeringdb.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2020 10:48 PM
> To: Terry Sweetser <Terry.Sweetser at ix.asn.au>
> Cc: dataownership-tf at lists.peeringdb.com
> Subject: Re: [PDB Data Ownership-TF] Apricot 2020
>  
> Hi Terry,
>  
> I have not received further feedback on this but we did talk about it during the last TF meeting. 
>  
> If we can arrange a place to meet during APRICOT can we make sure it will have connectivity too? 
> This way we can open Goto meetings and provide the opportunity for others to join in too, assuming the time will be manageable for them. 
>  
> If no one can attend we can still have a discussion and reflect those on the mailing list for other to follow-up later on. 
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> Pls let me know which date/time the room can be made available so I will schedule a Goto meeting.
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> Kind regards
> Filiz
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> On 9 Jan 2020, at 17:21, Filiz Yilmaz <filiz at peeringdb.com> wrote:
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> Hi Terry,
>  
> Thank you for your offer. I will be there and I will be very happy to meet you and others in person as I am there. 
> Nothing beats a face-to-face when especially discussing conflicting views :). 
>  
> Having said that I think we should be mindful about setting the ground rules for such a meeting. 
> We are geographically diverse and we have so far adapted having online meetings where the date and time set each time based on a Doodle poll. 
> I am worried a face to face meeting at APRICOT may result in not having majority of the group present and not being able to follow or participate in the discussions.
>  
> Due to time difference challenges, we may not be able to conduct such an online meeting for others to join in, whilst some (or worse only few) of us meet in person during APRICOT. Accordingly, I would suggest if that happens to be the case, we only have an informal meeting during APRICOT. 
> We can discuss issues and come up with suggestions for the rest of the TF to consider, but no decisions are to be taken during that meeting, if we are to lack a critical mass of participants. 
>  
> Would this work for everyone? 
> Thoughts? 
>  
> Kind regards
> Filiz
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> On 8 Jan 2020, at 00:19, Terry Sweetser <Terry.Sweetser at ix.asn.au> wrote:
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> Hi Taskforce,
> If you’re coming to Apricot 2020 in Melbourne, I suggest we have a get-together in person at the event.  I can organise a space for a meeting.
> Ref: https://2020.apricot.net/
> Regards,
> Terry Sweetser
> General Manager, IX Australia
> Terry.Sweetser at ix.asn.au
> Mobile/WhatsApp: +61455067119
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