[PDB Data Ownership-TF] IXP assignment IP address (netixlan) ownership (was: conditions for being listed in a facility)

Arnold Nipper arnold at peeringdb.com
Thu Jan 9 00:19:05 PST 2020

On 09.01.2020 05:03, Christopher Malayter wrote:
>> On Jan 8, 2020, at 11:00 PM, Chris Caputo <ccaputo at alt.net
>> <mailto:ccaputo at alt.net>> wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, Chris Caputo wrote:
>>> [I updated the subject.]
>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, Arnold Nipper wrote:
>>>> On 08.01.2020 19:06, Chris Caputo wrote:
>>>>> Dear All:
>>>>> The fundamental conflict which spawned this effort is the differing 
>>>>> perspectives of an IXP and a network with respect to IP assignment
>>>>> at an 
>>>>> IXP and whether or how to present or how to handle the differing data.
>>>> More precisely, the conflict arose from auto-removal of netixlan records
>>>> and not notifying the networks when doing so.
>>>>> Is there any reason not to try to first solve that (IMHO most
>>>>> significant) 
>>>>> question?
>>>> #539 [0] and #585 [1] both address this question.
>>>> * #539 proposes an additional boolean field `operational`. Esp. larger
>>>> networks want to announce their presence at IXPs well in advance, even
>>>> if they are not operational.
>>>> * #585 copes with cases where the old IX-F importer would delete
>>>> netixlan records. Now a support ticket with all parties involved is
>>>> opened to resolve the conflict.
>>>> IMO It definitely would help if the TF comes up with a recommendation
>>>> who is the (trusted) source of information for IP addresses.
>>> I believe the IXP responsible for a subnet is the trusted source of 
>>> information for IP address assignments on a subnet.
>>> Does anyone disagree?
>> Or better yet, to make sure, do others agree?  Maybe we are unanimous in 
>> that belief...
> I agree that the IXP responsible for a subnet should be the trusted
> source and owner for that object.

While I agree that the IXP responsible for a subnet should be the
trusted source, I disagree that the IXP also is the owner of the object
netixlan. For netixlan we have co-ownership between IXP and net.

Arnold Nipper
email: arnold at peeringdb.com
mobile: +49 172 2650958

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