[PDB-gov] BigPulse effort

Daniel Golding dgolding at google.com
Wed Nov 11 06:57:07 PST 2015

Usually for these things, giving five votes for five seats is the most
easily understood mechanism. If not, you will be explaining, alot....


On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Chris Caputo <secretary at peeringdb.com>

> Some items (most significant at bottom) re BigPulse...
> ---------
> Are people okay with the voting method being Single Transferable Vote
> (STV)?
>    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8XOZJkozfI
>    (CGP Grey take on STV)
> At present there are 12 candidates for 5 seats.  STV means that when you
> vote, you will be able to rank the candidates, and BigPulse will handle
> the transfer of votes as warranted by STV.  The idea with STV is that
> votes are not wasted, and voters can vote for who they think best, rather
> than strategically.
> ---------
> For the Anonymity setting, I have configured things so that I can not see
> the votes, but voters may change them.  This is described at:
>    https://www.bigpulse.com/A1
> If there is a thought that you all want me to be able to see the votes,
> for some kind of auditing purpose, please speak up.  I'm cool with
> trusting BigPulse if you all are.
> Along with the anonymity setting, I have configured BigPulse so that when
> the voting is happening, I will be able to see what organizations have
> voted, but I will not be able to see their votes or the candidate totals.
> ---------
> Since we are now using BigPulse, I've made it so the names on the ballot
> rotate, rather than being alphabetical by last name, as I've previously
> written.
> ---------
> PeeringDB draft docs state that a Member is an organization with a
> PeeringDB account which also has individual or role representative(s)
> subscribed to this mailing list (pdb-gov).
> In many cases, there are multiple representatives of the same organization
> subscribed to pdb-gov.
> The way BigPulse works is that a voting account is set up for each single
> voter, and this account has at most two email addresses associated with
> it.
> Each voting account will be emailed a ballot that contains a unique URL
> which enables login to the voting process.
> Thus we need to make sure each organization has only one vote, by creating
> only a single voting account for each potential voting organization.
> Given the above, I think we're going to need to do one of two things:
> Either:
>   - Use scripts (much of which Matt has already created, involving no
>     doubt several hours to do so), to go from the list of subscribers to
>     pdb-gov to organization records in the PeeringDB database.  And from
>     there email the first Policy email address in a given record.  If no
>     Policy entry, fallback to whatever email is available.  There may be
>     some manual intervention here, such as to choose peering@ over an
>     individual email.
>     - As I was writing this, Matt emailed to say is handling this issue,
>       reducing down to a single email address per organization.  So we may
>       be fine here.
> Or:
>   - Send a simple survey to the addresses on this list in which folks who
>     want to vote, respond saying they are the voter for their
>     organization.  (Organizations to work this out internally.)  I then
>     check PeeringDB to confirm they are associated with an active account,
>     and then create the BigPulse account for them, so they can get the
>     email with the voting URL when voting starts.  Role addresses such as
>     peering@ can be used.
>     - Even if we go with the first option, some surveying may be needed
>       for those email addresses that don't obviously match up with an
>       organization in PeeringDB.  But the thing to be careful about here,
>       is folks claiming to represent an organization when they aren't
>       emailing from the organization's domain name.  Should we just
>       declare that ballots can only go to the domain name of an
>       organization they represent?
> Other options?
> Chris
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Dan Golding | Network Infrastructure Engineering | dgolding at google.com |  +1
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