[PDB-gov] Voting eligibility
pf at caci.it
Fri Nov 20 13:52:48 PST 2015
>>>>> "Will" == Will Hargrave <will at harg.net> writes:
Will> These are two distinct points here.
Will> 1. Who is a ‘member’ / ‘stakeholder’ of the organisation?
Will> A network is a unique number and possibly a stack of
Will> equipment. It has no legal personality so cannot own or vote
Will> any more than a roundel of cheese can. We could decide to
Will> allow a member to have as many weighted votes as it has
Will> networks, but I suggest that would be daft.
Will> 2. The affiliate clause.
Will> We looked at other organisations - RIRs and IXs - and we
Will> decided in this very mailing list to include this clause to
Will> protect the organisation from capture. See the discussion
Will> around the 21st of October including my own posts. I did some
Will> work looking at e.g. RIPE NCC, LINX, AMS-IX, Nominet, LONAP
Will> documents. Some of those orgs have struggled with the concerns
Will> of capture in the past.
Will> If I desired to capture the org I could trivially spin up 40
Will> UK LTDs for <$1000 and equip them with LIRs and Peeringdb
Will> acccounts. Getting the AS and Pdb accounts would take the
Will> longest time of all those things.
Will> I agree with Arturo, Nat, et al — Hold firm. We decided this
Will> for all of the right reasons, and I’m afraid the fact that it
Will> may impact lovely people like PF and the Twitch and Amazon
Will> folks rather than anyone with obvious bad intentions changes
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Arturo Servin <arturo.servin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Amazon AS people and Twich AS people have a very civilized discussion (I would recommend to add some beer) to decide which person should vote and perhaps for whom to vote.
This is what James and I ended up doing when Chris told us only one of
us could vote. Minus the beer, because we're not close.
Yet, this clause seems weird to me. Sorry I missed the lengthy
discussion about it you had already, so I fail to understand the
rationale. I don't understand what the capture problem is, and I've
lived under a rock long enough to have missed such problems at RIPE et al.
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